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Pro-Vaxxers have a good story to tell. Registered Nurse gives us her take on the Vaccine Debate

On Sunday, 23 July 2017,  Carte Blanche covered one of the most controversial topics of today : Vaccinations.

Many people believe that Carte Blanche’s story was biased and one-sided, they have claimed the episode was sponsored by a Pharma company called “Oxford Vaccine Group” which would undoubtedly prove the episode to contain the story that they want you to believe is the truth. (follow the money trail?)

Hibiscus Coast Seconds approached Leane Novac, a registered Nurse in Durban, and asked for her side of the vaccine debate.




1. Please tell us if you are ‘pro’ or ‘anti’ vaccinations and why?

I am anti vaccine! There are numerous concerns regarding the vaccine safety and efficacy studies and the flaws in vaccine “science”, it is impossible to cover it all in one discussion, I will address my main concerns.

A– Vaccine “Safety” studies:

Vaccination is the one medical procedure that does NOT require industry-standard, double-blind, placebo-controlled safety studies that use a true saline placebo. The control group is often given another vaccine or an injection containing all the ingredients and adjuvants.

Here is an example where no placebo is used with the Hepatitis B vaccine , Engerix B. Their placebo used is “plasma-derived vaccines.” (NOT saline) and subjects were only monitored for 4 days post vaccination !  (1)

B– Vaccine “efficacy” studies are flawed.

Vaccine efficacy studies are based on the flawed premise the production of antibodies means immunity was conferred. CORRELATION IS NOT CAUSATION.

After vaccinating test subjects they do NOT expose them to the disease to test vaccine efficacy, they just test antibody levels. The fact that vaccine induced antibodies are found just means exposure occurred , it does not mean immunity was conferred. Immunity is a far more complex process. This is why we see vaccine failure over and over again, vaccination is NOT immunization. Vaccination cannot replicate the immunity that is conferred following natural exposure to the wild strains of the disease.

Here researchers look at Mice that were infected with VSV virus can suffer fatal invasion of the central nervous system even when they have a high concentration of anti-VSV antibodies in their system.

They conclude, “Our findings contradict the current view that antibodies are absolutely required to survive infection.” (2) In another article researchers investigate three cases of severe tetanus in vaccinated patients who had high serum levels of anti-tetanus antibodies. (3)

Here, children with agammaglobulinaemia, (a condition where one is unable to make antibodies) contracted measles were subsequently immune even though no measles anti-bodies were detectable in their serum. (4)

A full expanation can be read in The anti body deception (5)


To grow a vaccine a living medium is required. The mediums in use today include chick fibroblast cells, chick embryos, chick retinal cells, monkey kidney cells, aborted human fetal lung fibroblast cells, mouse brain culture, rhesus fetal lung tissue culture, and sheep red blood cells, insect cells, human diploid cell lines amoungst others. The FDA give a full list of vaccine ingredients that are in use; (6)

When they filter the vaccine out from the growth medium they can’t filter out anything smaller than the vaccine antigens (or the vaccine would not elicit and immune response  ) this means anything smaller than the antigen will get through the filtration process and end up in the vaccine.

For a contaminant to be identified during the testing process researchers have to know what their molecular markers are, with these markers they can identify them against database a of reference viruses. But researchers do not have all this data in Genbank ( the NIH genetic sequence database of all publicly available DNA sequences) if they don’t know what they looking for they cant find it !! This is how so many vaccines have been contaminated in the past and will continue to be in the future. In many cases when contaminants happen to be identified authorities go on to say they harmless and they presumed to be redundant !!

Here are just a few examples of contamination;

The Rotavirus vaccine
Porcine circoviruses (pig) Virus DNA has been found in Rotarix and Rotateq , the CDC has not done much about it!  (7)

The Polio vaccine
SV40 was found in the vaccine, this virus is now found in some human cancers. The source of contamination was the rhesus and African green monkey kidney cells used to produce the vaccine. To preserve the guise of trust and safety this information was recently removed (censored) from the CDC’s website. (8)

Varicella vaccine
Dr Deisher raises concerns with the chicken pox vaccine which contains 2 micrograms of residual double stranded human DNA (the vaccine uses human foetal tissue in the manufacturing process. ) (9)

D– Carcinogenesis and mutogenesis and epigenetic effects

These ARE NOT tested for during vaccine safety trials and the package inserts state “ this vaccine has not been evaluated for carcinogenic effects, mutogenic effects or effects on fertility”.  Dr Deisher raises concerns with the chicken pox and MMR vaccine which contains more than 2 micrograms of residual double stranded human DNA :

“There are a large number of publications about the presence of human endogenous retrovirus – the only re-activatableendogenous retrovirus and its association with childhood lymphoma,….The MMR II and chickenpox vaccines and indeed all vaccines that were propagated or manufactured using the fetal cell line WI-38 are contaminated with this retrovirus. And both parents and physicians have a right to know this!”

Epigenetic effects of vaccination are not tested for , yet these independent tests found the following :

This study, (10), found found Epigenetic alteration after the DPT vaccine resulting in :

*Genetic disorders

*Cell death

*GI disease

*Developmetal disorders

*Metabolism dysfunction

*Cell signalling problems

*Cardiovascular disease

*Immunological disease

*Connective tissue disorders

*Energy production problems

Another study looked at asthma- and allergy-associated immune response gene expression following 5 in 1 vaccine (DTaP-IPV-HIB) (11)

After 12 hours of in vitro stimulation with pertussis toxin the researchers found

*33 allergy related genes activated

*66 asthma related genes activated

 *67 cancer genes up-regulated

*25 immunological genes up-regulated



There have been some arguments regarding religion and vaccines, for our Jewish readers, would their be any religious reason for your stance?

The above mentioned contamination and growth mediums used for vaccine production makes it clear that vaccines are not Kosher.


3. Why do you think measles outbreaks  are happening more regularly around the world?

Those that have fallen for the mainstream propaganda will cry, “because of the anti vaxxers”,  but the truth is vaccination is not as effective as they would like us to believe. Outbreaks are occurring in highly vaccinated areas where the so called “herd” is meant to prevent this. There are numerous publications that look at the failure of the measles vaccine, this one looks at the overall effectiveness, or lack thereof ;

“Receiving less attention, however, is the issue of vaccine failure…the immune response to measles vaccine varies substantially in actual field use..measles outbreaks also occur even among highly vaccinated populations because of primary and secondary vaccine failure, which results in gradually larger pools of susceptible persons and outbreaks once measles is introduced [8]. This leads to a paradoxical situation whereby measles in highly immunized societies occurs primarily among those previously immunized [12].”

4. What are your thoughts on the supposed connection between autism and vaccines?

Let me start by saying that the majority of us that question the safety and efficacy of vaccination do not make the decision based on the autism / vaccine debate. I myself vaccinated my child until she had an adverse reaction, I had not even heard of Dr Wakefield back then.

Dr Wakefield’s study (13) provides a case history for twelve children discussing incidences of chronic enterocolitis, inflammatory bowel disease and regressive developmental disorder. The charges laid against Wakefield and authors of the paper were not charges from a legal court. The charges were made in the General Medical Council (GMC) – this is the state regulator, they have no legal training, (a few doctors and lay people sit on the board) – they acted on behalf of the government in the case against Wakefield.
The one accused researcher, Professor John-Walker Smith, (who had the same charges against him and also had his license removed), had his medical insurance pay out to take his case further to the English High Court. (At a cost of 500 000 pounds)
This was the first time this case was heard in front of a proper court. The judge in the English High Court ruled and said the following about the GMC ; “Fundamental errors ( referring to the initial case against Wakefield and his authors) , there was a distortion of evidence, inadequate analysis, inadequate and superficial reasoning and explanation, inappropriate rejection of evidence , “flawed” and “wrong” reasoning , and “numerous and inadequate significant inaccuracies ..” John-Walker Smith had his licence reinstated!  (14)

The CDC concluded in 2002 that there was no link between the MMR and autism……………. BUT in 2014 Dr William Thompson from the CDC came forward admitting that the CDC hid data that showed a significant correlation between early MMR and autism , especially in black children . He has released a statement with his attorneys and been granted whistleblower status. This is really bad . The fact that the CDC manipulated and hid data means this can be done ( and is being done) with many other pharmaceutical studies . Dr. Thompson’s press release through a top whistleblower attorney- he still supports vaccines but admits the recordings are him and he regrets actions on that study. (15)

5. How do you think institutions should deal with the vaccination debate?

Everyone has  the right to make an informed decision, vaccination is not mandatory in South Africa.  Schools should respect a parents right. Paragraph 16 of the NATIONAL EDUCATION POLICY ACT, 1996  (ACT NO. 27 OF 1996) ADMISSION POLICY FOR ORDINARY PUBLIC SCHOOLS states that on application for admission, a parent must show proof that the learner has been immunised against certain diseases and if a parent is unable to show proof of immunisation, the principal must advise the parent on having the learner immunised as part of the free primary health care programme. However, although one must be advised this is not a condition for admission.

Section 9 (3) and (4) under the Bill of Rights on Equality states:
”neither “the State” nor “any person” may “unfairly discriminate, directly or indirectly, against anyone on one or more grounds” including “religion”, “conscience” and “belief”. ”

Vaccination is a medical procedure that carries risks and when risks are involved a parent should ALWAYS have the right to decline the procedure.

6. Is there anything you would like to say to parents / professionals in the opposite camp?

The majority of parents and health care providers that are “anti vaxxers” are ex vaxxers, we DID vaccinate, we were pro vaccine once, until our child was that “rare” adverse event!

I encourage health care providers to look further, listen to their patients and find the evidence of harm – IT IS OUT THERE IF YOU SEARCH FOR IT.

7. Are there any words of encouragement you would like to say to parents/professionals on your side of the debate?


Society is awakening at an exponential rate, the collective consciousness is growing and our voices are being heard.  During this time many will fear us, unfortunately their ignorance together with their susceptibility for propaganda fuels this fear and subsequently their hate for us.  Stand strong, remain kind and understand that you were once in their shoes.

8. Do you have any scientific resources you suggest our readers should look at?


9. What do you envision as the best situation regarding vaccinations?


Respect a parents right to vaccinate or to decline vaccination. No vaccine is a safe vaccine.  The US Supreme Court has ruled vaccines are “unavoidably unsafe.”(16) It would be unethical to insist that one vaccinates their child to “protect” the “herd”.

10. Anything else you would like to add?

We have not even had the time to discuss vaccine ingredients.  Aluminium adjuvants have replaced thimerosal yet they too are neurotoxic, vaccines also contain ingredients like polysorbate 80, a surfactant that helps carry substances across this blood brain barrier.
The Journal of the American Society for Experimental Neurotherapeutics states ” The BBB, like cell membranes in general, is subject to solvent-mediated disruption with chemicals such as ethanol, dimethylsulfoxide (DMSO), or detergents such as SDS, or Tween 80 also known as polysorbate-80. There are numerous examples in the literature where the peripheral administration of a drug, which normally should not cross the BBB, is followed by pharmacological activity in the brain.” (17)

Aluminium is a KNOWN neurotoxin and is found in most of our vaccines, again various researchers question the safety of such adjuvants.  Here a re just a few excerpts from the this article (18)

– “A Lot Must be Done to Understand How, in Certain Individuals, Alum-Containing Vaccines may Become Insidiously Unsafe”

-“Aluminum has long been identified as a neurotoxic metal, affecting memory, cognition and psychomotor control, altering neurotransmission and synaptic activity, damaging the blood–brain barrier (BBB)”

– In addition, alum particles impact the immune system through their adjuvant effect and by many other means.

-. “Finally, alum particles can directly induce allergy as other metals”

-” concerns about the use of aluminum adjuvants have emerged following

(i) recognition of their role at the origin of the so-called macrophagic myofasciitis (MMF) lesion in 2001 , which revealed fundamental misconception of their adjuvanteffect and pointed out their unexpectedly long-lasting biopersistence ; and

(ii) demonstration of their apparent capacity to migrate in lymphoid organs and then disseminate throughout the body within monocyte-lineage cells and progressivelyaccumulate in the brain

-”In spite of their long usage, the literature has pointed out that the adjuvanticity mechanisms of aluminum salts remain basically unknown despite most active investigation in the field in recent years. “



















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